Ist day of training

[hicntry]

Well by golly I started. Mark that down, Dec 4, 2006. 2 1/2 hrs including laying tracks and all. Ran two tracks with both dogs Magnum is 7 1/2 mo with the blue collar. Odin has the orange collar. These are both green dogs except for limited going to work with me. Note....the bottled scent did not float their boat at all so when I was done, I took the device and turned it loose out of sight. Then took the dogs to the release point....world of difference. How to overcome this lack of interest in a bottled scent? I did the drag, and hung it in the tree also. Recognition by association if nothing else.

Note...No handlers to be seen!! Magnum is on the left. It took a while to get the idea on the first try but....word of advice...leave your dog alone and let him figure it out. If you have to, start at 25 or 30 yds but don't let him see what you are doing. For a first time I probably put it out to far. The mistake people make is interferring with the dog. Leave him alone...if he can't find it, make the initial track shorter because it will lengthen dramatically in a few times out. Not only don't screw with them but keep quiet. You will learn more from watching him than he will learn from you. Oh, but, I am not a trainer and this is not training....you are merely staging the environment to simulate what he/she would learn on his/her own if the opportunity were there. This is not obedience work...it is fur and should be natural to the dog.

[Roger]

the poster doesn't deserve the recognition Curt

[ronstout]

Don...I wish we had talked about 'bottled scents' before you got it. The stuff really don't cost that much but it is totally worthless.

I have found only one 'bottled scent' to be of value. When I get tired of my neighbors cats coming into my yard and using it for their litter box, I trap them and apply a liberal dose of skunk scent. Keep in mind, these are cats that live in the house and are turned loose on the public to nuts all over the place and etc. etc. etc.

Can you imagine what pleasure I derive from hearing the 'screams of delight' coming from the neighbors???

Dear God...there is some justice in the world. LOLOLOL

RON ESQ

[mijotheterror]

I was laughing so hard Fernando wanted to know what was so funny. This is by far the best way I've ever heard of to take care of the neighbor's cats! I only have one question. Where do you buy skunk scent?

[ronstout]

Skunk scent?

There is a little hardware store here in town that sells hunting supplies and all sorts of scents. It only costs about 5 bucks for an 8 oz bottle...but trust me...this stuff is conscentrated. A little goes a LONG way.

You can get it from most of the trapping/fur supply folks that advertise in Full Cry or you can order it from the intertnet..

Very readily available. The only draw back is when the cats come back over to my yard...I have to smell them, but only on the yard... the DAMAGE has already been done to the neighbor's mental faculties. lololol

They have no clue what sport I am having with them...

Their homes, children, beds....everything....smells to high heaven.

I feel certain it is legal....These folks think their cats have an affinity for skunks. I suppose they might even feel that the cats have been crossing the species barrier for a 'walk on the wild side for love'...

Ye' really can't believe the fun it is to watch and hear about it...

RON ESQ

[hicntry]

Great idea Ron.LOL The scent is what is used at the Nationals so I am just getting the dogs to associate something to kill with the scent. It won't take long. Heck I used a oppossom the other day. Doesn't really make any difference what is used as long as the scent is there and it fights back. The oppossom was a bit disappointing because 7 mo old Magnum snatched it off the ground and stopped suddenly and put it back down. He wasn't sure what to think but the damn thing had passed out and gone limp on him. Now he thinks that is all there is to a kill. Wait till I drop a coon in front of him.LOL The oppossom didn't really get his buttons totally pushed but I know what will. Give the boys five or six coon kills apiece and they won't even look at that fox.LOL

[ronstout]

Oh...that 'possum did'nt pass out...he feigned death.

You are right about that coon.

Let me school you on 'possums...folks think they have no fight in them...that is not so. When they are caught in the open they
'play dead' assuming the aggressor will let them be, because they really do have a terrible smell...Ye' gotta' be damned hungry even to skin one, much less try to eat one.

But, if you can get them cornered under a bank or in a hole, with their back side protected...you will find that they are very capable of giving a great account of themselves. They have strong teeth and jaws and are very able to use them.

I agree...if they use 'coon scent' I'd use it too...you might want to but it on real coons though...because no Airedalle is going to be fooled into thinking a possum drizzled with coon piss will be fooled by it.

Let 'em fight a couple coons and that will key them on in to the real thing...

ESQ

[gundermann]

Don, I found the same thing with the bottled scent. The dogs treed or more like poled a coon in the backyard who then proceeded to knock out my cable as he scrambled up the pole but the dogs seemed to figure out what they smelled like from that experience. Now I'm trying to teach them that the bottled scent really does lead to a coon too! We don't have much choice since this is how the testing is done.

Ron, you're a nice guy:) Caesar caught a squirrel in the backyard today...if a cat comes into the yard he's going to have the same experience as that little critter unless I see him before I open the door and that's not too likely being that I don't have x-ray vision. I'm not sure what the hell it was doing in the middle of the yard and I'll give him credit, I've never seen a squirrel move that fast but with those little legs he didn't have a chance.
Rob

[ronstout]

Sorry...I gave some incorrect information. I just checked the bottle of skunk scent...it is only 2 ounces for $4.99.

Even at that, two ounces will last years!!!! This is just flat-out skunk musk...

It comes in a glass bottle...on it's own, you can smell it through the container, no matter how tight on the lid is.

I also control the odor around the house; it comes in a heavy gauge, smallish clear glass container and....in the intrest of personal comfort, that mess is then put into heavy, good quality freezer bag and finally...that bundle goes into a plastic Jiff peanut butter jar......

Even at that...on a warm day, I can get a little of it as the temp. rises. I keep it in my metal out-building.

Don't let this one slip by....no animals get hurt and the I never get tired of the results...


LOLOLOLOL..........LOLOLOLOL

Yeh...I am sick I suppose, but the neighbors make a concerted effort to keep their cats away from my ward.

If those bastards walk by in sight, the 'peace' is really didturbed. That Mal raises hell and the Jagdterriers scream 'til their tongues turn blue...it can go on for hours...

I have asked the neighbors to keep the cats from my yard. I could establish a definative relief by turning the dogs loose, but the cats would run up and under neighbors house...

All things considered...the 'kicks and giggles' this deal provides me more than a little compensation fo rtheir cats causing my dogs to barf!!

Damn... things get wild and wooly around here sometimes!!!!!

ESQ