Post by phil on Jun 27, 2007 13:09:05 GMT -5
Thought I would share some thoughts about hog dogo's from David Jones of Victoria,Texas, David an all breed dog trainer,originally from England. has trained bird dogs flushing spaniels and retrievers sice he was ten years old move here from Wales some 35 yrs ago. David has real passion for hog Dogo's as he calls em. Was ask the following question about hog hunting dogs..Afterall he has run 1000's of dog's on all sorts of game over his lifetime . The thing I love about David is he has absolutly
no breed bias. David is super resource for those of you in the Texas area I certainly hope you get to meet him some day....
You are using hybrid dogs for hog hunting rather then purebred hounds or other purebreds such as pit bulls or Airedales. Why are you using these hybrid combinations rather then purebreds?
>
> Originally, I was rescuing dogs from the pound destined to be put to
> sleep. After obtaining a few of these dogs I thought what a waste of a
> wonderful animal. They were nearly always crosses and I usually picked
> something with a pit bull in it. After hunting hogs for a couple of years
> I found that straight pits would get killed when they encountered the
> first big aggressive Boar. Dogs that were 50% pit or less usually lasted a
> long time.
> They seemed to have enough sense to back off on killer hogs. Lucky was my
> all time favorite and great. We never really knew what his exact breeding
> was but it was almost certainly Pit X Chow. He hunted 100s of hogs with me
> and finally I had to put him to sleep one night after cancer got him. We
> went out on the final hunt , he and I in the moonlight like we had done a
> 1000 times. Even though his body was eaten up by cancer he stood on the
> gas tank of my ATV with his short stubby tail wagging in my face, I have
> had hundreds of purebred dogs in my life some of the best have been mutts
> from the pound.
> These dogs were extremely smart but cheap in price . By the time you got
> them hunting you had less than a hundred dollars in them.
> One of my first cross breedings was between a Pit and a Pointer . It
> took a year to raise the litter and they were too hard and ran too big.
> The grand-sire being Slatecreek Doc a National Champion.They were all dead
> and MIA by the time they were two years old. A very expensive lesson.
> So its economics that come in , cross breeds have no value and so if
> they get killed investment wise you have not lost too much.
> For instance I just looked at a litter of Irish Wolfhounds and they were
> $2000-00 a puppy. I could not afford to take one of those hog hunting.
> Anyway they are too big, but having one you could use him for a cross
> breeding with say a Pit. LOL Wouldn't that be a sight ? That's the
> excitement about cross breeding , seeing what you get. Sometimes its
> exactly as you expect and sometimes nothing like you had imagined.
> Sometimes the litter is split some looking like sire and some like dam. As
> Forrest Gump said its like a box of chocolates you never know what you are
> going to get.
> This maybe is not the answer you were looking for but its how I started
> into this addictive mess and its how I found out that papers on a dog
> don't mean a dam thing if it cannot do the job.
> For instance look at the American Springer Spaniel LOL I can rest my case
> on that one.
> More later I have to go run my fifth generation crosses. DJJ,
> p.s. I have used Airedales and they were great but free.
no breed bias. David is super resource for those of you in the Texas area I certainly hope you get to meet him some day....
You are using hybrid dogs for hog hunting rather then purebred hounds or other purebreds such as pit bulls or Airedales. Why are you using these hybrid combinations rather then purebreds?
>
> Originally, I was rescuing dogs from the pound destined to be put to
> sleep. After obtaining a few of these dogs I thought what a waste of a
> wonderful animal. They were nearly always crosses and I usually picked
> something with a pit bull in it. After hunting hogs for a couple of years
> I found that straight pits would get killed when they encountered the
> first big aggressive Boar. Dogs that were 50% pit or less usually lasted a
> long time.
> They seemed to have enough sense to back off on killer hogs. Lucky was my
> all time favorite and great. We never really knew what his exact breeding
> was but it was almost certainly Pit X Chow. He hunted 100s of hogs with me
> and finally I had to put him to sleep one night after cancer got him. We
> went out on the final hunt , he and I in the moonlight like we had done a
> 1000 times. Even though his body was eaten up by cancer he stood on the
> gas tank of my ATV with his short stubby tail wagging in my face, I have
> had hundreds of purebred dogs in my life some of the best have been mutts
> from the pound.
> These dogs were extremely smart but cheap in price . By the time you got
> them hunting you had less than a hundred dollars in them.
> One of my first cross breedings was between a Pit and a Pointer . It
> took a year to raise the litter and they were too hard and ran too big.
> The grand-sire being Slatecreek Doc a National Champion.They were all dead
> and MIA by the time they were two years old. A very expensive lesson.
> So its economics that come in , cross breeds have no value and so if
> they get killed investment wise you have not lost too much.
> For instance I just looked at a litter of Irish Wolfhounds and they were
> $2000-00 a puppy. I could not afford to take one of those hog hunting.
> Anyway they are too big, but having one you could use him for a cross
> breeding with say a Pit. LOL Wouldn't that be a sight ? That's the
> excitement about cross breeding , seeing what you get. Sometimes its
> exactly as you expect and sometimes nothing like you had imagined.
> Sometimes the litter is split some looking like sire and some like dam. As
> Forrest Gump said its like a box of chocolates you never know what you are
> going to get.
> This maybe is not the answer you were looking for but its how I started
> into this addictive mess and its how I found out that papers on a dog
> don't mean a dam thing if it cannot do the job.
> For instance look at the American Springer Spaniel LOL I can rest my case
> on that one.
> More later I have to go run my fifth generation crosses. DJJ,
> p.s. I have used Airedales and they were great but free.