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Post by melanie on Mar 12, 2006 2:15:32 GMT -5
It doesn't have to be a solid red slick (that would be so cool) but just not black. I know, I shouldn't have color prejudice, but I just don't like a black or mostly black dog. (Because they get hot so fast.) Theresa - I too find the red, especially dark or deep red, very aesthetically pleasing! But, when you refer to a slick coat, I think of a short single coated dog like a rat terrier or greyhound. I think the term more appropriate would be smooth coat, which at least to me connotates a double coated dog that lies flat and dense -- excellent protection from the elements without being a burr magnet. But, that's me. Maybe I don't have a true slick. Gene does have a double coat, but it lies flat. His legs are perfetly smooth. He does have a little sprout of a beard, but he looks entirely different from the rest. He could be such a hard coated dog that he's just going to take forever to grow furnishing, if he ever does. He needs a working home badly! He screams potential! Yeah - I know, I'll get the pictures up! [glow=red,2,300]Mel[/glow]
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Post by Maverick on Mar 13, 2006 14:41:42 GMT -5
T - You are going to ruffle a few feathers with those pics! Looking at the pictures, there seem to be a real lack of coat in the tan parts, and the dog on the right (looking at it) is a bit narrow in the muzzle for my liking. There are a few of that line that are inbetween on coat that I really like the looks of. As I have said before, I really want to like that line of Airedales, but the great feats that are touted about them are subpar in my book, some down right laughable to anyone that has worked a hard den terrier. The picture of the nutria with 2 Airedales (50 60 lbs?) I presume were used to catch it. A nice looking picture, but if it is being used to tout how tough the 2 Airedales are, I am only amused. Here is a picture of a *working* lakeland from the east coast (apparently nutrialess) that has offspring regularly being used to take nutria that size and larger, and they have accounted for a great many: This dog is a 12 to 13 lb dog, 1/4 to 1/5 the weight of either of the Airedales pictured. I also really like the coat and furnishings this dog has, and is the reason I chose this particular picture. Here is another nice coat, IMO, that is a bit rougher (about as long and rough as I personally like), this time on a Jagd: I've seen some pictures on the Internet showing a tough Airedale tackling what appears to be a half grown raccoon on a lawn, apparently to show the Airedale's great prowress. What I am used to is this, 33 lb coon / 18 lb dog: I think I may be being a little too cynical. If anyone has Airedales that can stop a bear that won't tree, stop a wild boar trying to make it to the next county, or pull a coyote from a culvert with ease and then quickly dispatch it, I'm all ears! Now, what were we talking about, dew claws?
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Post by Maverick on Mar 13, 2006 15:37:31 GMT -5
Oh, I really like the looks of this one here!! If this is the natural coat, no fancy trimmin' or plucking, couldja make this one about 60-70 pounds, wouldja please??? Keep in mind, I am in the market for a PET - and one that is capable of getting along in a multidog pack... I guess I don't want too much dog, esp since a good working dog would go to waste in my house, ie I wouldn't be able to do it justice work wise. Gosh, I like the looks of the dog above. Slick dale like that.. (you don't call this coat slick tho, do you - you call it inbetween?) The good ol' boys the breed and work these dogs don't go for that preening and primping! Very few of these hard working terriers are dog aggressive. Some lines of Jagds and individual Jagds having the most exceptions. One of those Arizona dogs might be just the ticket, but I see a lot of variation in head shape and coat. Might be a gamble getting a young pup. Then there is Mark's Doberdales that are worth looking at. Good chance they will come out with maintenance free coats! Now if you could find a large, deep red, hard coated Irish Terrier with brains, and bred it to one of Don's Stagdales, you might just have something! ;D Take care Theresa, - Pete
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Post by melanie on Mar 13, 2006 15:50:36 GMT -5
Gene's legs are the same, but the difference ends there. His face is unmistakably Airedale not as chiseled as those in the picture. Though those looked unmistakably AIredale, too. With very chiseled heads. Gene's got a double coat. Do Slicks/ Redlines have double coats? [glow=red,2,300]Mel[/glow]
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Post by martinr on Mar 19, 2006 15:25:30 GMT -5
Gene's got a double coat. Do Slicks/ Redlines have double coats? [glow=red,2,300]Mel[/glow] All "Slicks" I know or have seen have a dubble coat that fits the standard quite well. It's hard and wiry, and not so long as to appeared ragged. It's als lies straight and close and covers the dog well all over the body and legs. . I have never seen Cajun myself but I saw Kay and she is the same typ of dog as my Annie but bigger and heavier.
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Post by jsf13 on Mar 19, 2006 18:13:08 GMT -5
Can you post a pic of Gene? I am curious to see what you mean . Yeah,I'd like to see Gene also.
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Post by Maverick on Mar 19, 2006 21:42:57 GMT -5
All "Slicks" I know or have seen have a dubble coat that fits the standard quite well. It's hard and wiry, and not so long as to appeared ragged. It's als lies straight and close and covers the dog well all over the body and legs. I have never seen Cajun myself but I saw Kay and she is the same typ of dog as my Annie but bigger and heavier. It appears that the black saddle part of the coat is of a decent length (3 inches) and has a nice texture on the outside. Could you part it to show the undercoat? Also, I see no closeup of the tan part of the coat. I think that is what is of most concern. From the pictures, it appears to be very short and slick (lacking undercoat). Maybe you could get a picture of the muzzle and/or cheek showing both the outercoat and undercoat, and lengths of both. Could you do that? Thanks, Pete
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Post by martinr on Mar 20, 2006 15:38:08 GMT -5
They have the same typ of coat the German Wire Hair Pointer or the German Hunting Terrier(DJT) have too. It is a typical short wire hair but my dogs lack the beard. The coat is neither smooth nor slick. Compared to a smooth coated Jack Russel or smooth coated DJT it is long. Here is the tan coat.
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Post by martinr on Mar 20, 2006 15:40:10 GMT -5
Welcome, Martin ... Lookin' forward to reading about Airedales ... In Germany ...and,... I'm still on track for a vistit to Germany ... With Schutzhund BH (?) Gator in... September! ;D Hope to meet you in person - come a month or two later and we have boar hunting season! LOL
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Post by M22 on Mar 20, 2006 19:08:32 GMT -5
Martin.Got some slick hairs on the ground. 6 babes. redline & Elkhound cross. NOT the standard but treeing & Baying machines. I hope,no I KNOW ;D
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