Roger
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Post by Roger on Nov 26, 2005 12:49:31 GMT -5
Been having hell trying to get dogs broke off of deer. Going to try this.
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Post by Admin on Nov 26, 2005 15:50:32 GMT -5
Roger What other methods have you tried?
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Roger
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Post by Roger on Nov 26, 2005 16:13:04 GMT -5
Boot in the butt and tri-tronics. I've had the E. collars for a year now and they're getting wise to them. They hunt better when the collars are off. The collars are of no use at night either. They bounced a deer off a fence and got a taste this summer and it's been like starting all over.
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Summit Forge
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Post by Summit Forge on Nov 26, 2005 19:08:40 GMT -5
Roger, I do not hunt at night, so have no experience braking an out of sight Airedale off of deer. However, the hound guys seem to rely on the old method of having a dog "wear deer scent" real up close and personal until they will not look at a deer.
Ron
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Roger
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Post by Roger on Nov 26, 2005 21:29:04 GMT -5
I"ve heard of that. I might try squirting him in the face with deer scent when I shock him. He sure does hate to be shocked. Your dog looks pretty pleased with himself holding that grouse. Fine picture.
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hal
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Post by hal on Nov 28, 2005 14:35:21 GMT -5
Breaking deer chasers is a tricky deal.. heard of a training technique in Southern Indiana. At Jo Jacoby's Goat farm. For $25.00 Joe would put your dog out in the outhouse with one of his prize rams...usually after 15 minutes or less, if the out house got tipped over by all the the ramming by that big old male goat very few dogs would even look at a deer much less chase em.
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Post by melanie on Nov 28, 2005 16:00:42 GMT -5
My friend got a 4 point yesterday am. He brings my dogs deer bones to chew. There's nothing wrong with that, is there? My dogs will probably never see a deer, let alone try to run one. But they sure love the bones! Bambi bones.... [glow=red,2,300]Mel[/glow]
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Post by markbaldassarre on Nov 28, 2005 21:08:49 GMT -5
Roger
2 things to try
1. Scout deer area. Bring dog out when you see deer & let him see the deer. When he goes to chase the deer, nail him.
2. Again scout for deer. When you see deer, spook deer off. Bring dog out to exact spot deer crossed. Let dog find track. When dog finds track with his nose...nail him.
You can do it the way I have via long line or zap him.
Mark
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Roger
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Post by Roger on Nov 28, 2005 21:11:54 GMT -5
Just read a thread on another board that suggested sticking a deer hide along with the dog in a 50 gallon drum and rolling it down a hill. What ever works.
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Post by Maverick on Nov 28, 2005 21:32:33 GMT -5
Bambi bones.... Grew up eating a lot of Bambis (Wolfer & Don, don't read more into that! ). The marrow is suppose to be a delicacy to Indians and very nutritious, which I didn't know until much later in life. Pretty tasty actually.
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Post by markbaldassarre on Nov 28, 2005 22:14:19 GMT -5
"Just read a thread on another board that suggested sticking a deer hide along with the dog in a 50 gallon drum and rolling it down a hill. What ever works"
Don't do that. Aversion training is weak on the part of the trainer and creates weakNESS in the dog. You'll end up w/ a psycho dog who's afraid of barrels.
Mark
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Post by hicntry on Nov 28, 2005 22:55:57 GMT -5
Years ago I tried the deer leg thing. Was skinning a deer outside the yards and just threw the legs into the dog yards when I cut them off. Worked great!!!! I knew where every deer was when I was hunting for quite a spell. Had to get a shock collar. Had to be one of my dumber moments.
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Roger
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Post by Roger on Dec 1, 2005 17:56:55 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about your dog. Could you give me the specifics on how and when best to use breaking scent? Thanks.
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Post by dsherwood on Dec 31, 2005 20:01:12 GMT -5
If you use an E collar drive around until you find a deer,put him on the ground on deer track,let him runthat track out aways [100 yards or so ]then bump him.After he gets that far out he won't be thinking about you so he won't think you had anything to do with him getting shocked.Also make sure you know how to use the shocking collar,if you don't, LEARN.It is a very valuable tool IF used right. Also electric fence and deer leg is good idea,don't let him see you do it.One time I had a deer gland on a piece of wire that I was gonna drop over the electric fence so it would hang down so it was about 8 inches off the ground,any way Idropped the wire on the hot fence but it didn't hook right and fell off the other side of fence.And since I am a brilliant mastermind I thought that instead of unplugging the fence I would carefully reach through and pick it up and do it right the next time.Great thought, dog seen me leaning through the fence,ran up and jumped up and knocked me over on the fence.What an exciting time I was having,got shocked about fifteen times before I untangled myself.So much for brilliant,Good Luck.
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