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Post by hicntry on Dec 13, 2005 21:30:55 GMT -5
I really didn't expect such great interest in the trial registry. Really I am not surprised at all because it was free but it does kind of reflect what would happen if someone took a lot of time and effort into setting one up..... Zip. I would like some feed back as to why this overwhelming response. Something like this has to start somewhere and this was kind of a "testing the water" kind of registry. Opinions?
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Post by melanie on Dec 13, 2005 22:05:32 GMT -5
Don, I was wondering the same thing myself. I thought everyone was clamoring for a hunting registry but so far 2 of only 3 are Sch. dogs! Where'd everybody go? Huh. [glow=red,2,300]Mel[/glow]
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Post by alex on Dec 14, 2005 1:53:45 GMT -5
Don,
I thought that the registry is more for dogs that already achieved something - in hunting, schutzhund, tracking, obedience, etc (like yourself, Ed, Maugh, Michael, etc.). For example, mine is predominantly from the show lines and in training. I hope that she'll achieve something one day - we are working hard on it. But if for whatever reason she will not - than I'll supply false information.
Just my thoughts...
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Post by hicntry on Dec 14, 2005 10:17:29 GMT -5
Good point Alex and a point well taken. I have no official titles and such. Maybe the folks with the real titles think it is to lax an idea.....but it is informative and shows that Curt is working his dog. If people were paying good money for this registry, yes it would have to be much more regimented and held to higher standards (and I would take mine out). I am not sure what the answer is here, to give the idea some credibility yet make it available. With the personal dialog from each owner, I would suspect it would give us something to compare with others and common sense would have to dictate. Let's say (it is the honor system) your working you dog in manwork, and objectively, he is looking pretty darn good. What do people think? Should the dog be put in with appropriate pics actually working? One of the rules requires the titles and such be listed. It would be apparent that the dog has no titles but you are working him toward them. Maybe Dave should step in here. Also, most people, in their hearts, know a dog isn't going to cut it. The honor system and conscience should, hopefully, keep them from registering the dog. It will take a little kicking this around but I am sure with some input, we can come up with a satisfactory system.
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Post by hicntry on Dec 14, 2005 10:20:46 GMT -5
Maybe another listing that is for dogs with titles only. That way no one has to sift through all the dogs to see which are titled. Also, maybe Curt will put all those names we see at the bottom of each post and put them over there and leave them.
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Post by hicntry on Dec 14, 2005 11:07:25 GMT -5
Only do it with a life jacket....gurgle....gurgle
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Post by melanie on Dec 14, 2005 15:44:06 GMT -5
So have a registry of all who are interested, encompassing one for titled dogs, one for dogs working on titles. If listed dogs don't achieve, remove them from the list. Now I've also read here that it's not the dog but it's family tree that makes him a worker. So the above suggestion then goes out the window, and what we've got so far is correct. I think the dog listed should be the acheiver, myself, but hey, I'm flexible. In fact, i think it would be fun to watch our dogs move from one side of the regisrty to the other - might induce everybody to put their money where their mouth is. ;D It'd then turn it into an "active" list, by adding a little good natured competition. I don't know of any titles for hogs & large game except what Don's and the rest have mounted on the wall! The registry should recognize that, say a move to the titled list with the first good kill.... you folks wiht your hog hunters and such could get a "Don's Real Working AIredale titile" where no other title exists! It would be a avenue for us to improve our sense of community and encourage both old and new trainers! ANd at the same time give us an easily accessable regisrty for breeding and obtaining good stock. ANd honesty would be mandatory. Jus' thinkin'... [glow=red,2,300]Mel[/glow]
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Post by hicntry on Dec 14, 2005 20:24:03 GMT -5
So have a registry of all who are interested, encompassing one for titled dogs, one for dogs working on titles. If listed dogs don't achieve, remove them from the list. Now I've also read here that it's not the dog but it's family tree that makes him a worker. So the above suggestion then goes out the window, and what we've got so far is correct. I think the dog listed should be the achiever, myself, but hey, I'm flexible. In fact, i think it would be fun to watch our dogs move from one side of the registry to the other - might induce everybody to put their money where their mouth is. ;D It'd then turn it into an "active" list, by adding a little good natured competition. I don't know of any titles for hogs & large game except what Don's and the rest have mounted on the wall! The registry should recognize that, say a move to the titled list with the first good kill.... you folks with your hog hunters and such could get a "Don's Real Working Airedale title" where no other title exists! It would be a avenue for us to improve our sense of community and encourage both old and new trainers! And at the same time give us an easily accessible registry for breeding and obtaining good stock. And honesty would be mandatory. Jus' thinkin'... [glow=red,2,300]Mel[/glow]Mel, I felt a slight jab in the ribs. A good solid worker is just that. The importance of having a five generation pedigree will answer a lot of questions regarding the back ground. If the great worker and the registry survive enough years, and the worker is bred a few times, one would expect to see his name show up on more workers pedigrees. Understanding of course, there is no guarantees because so few people actually work these dogs. If all the pups are sold as pets, obviously they won't show up. We do what we can do and that is about the size of it. It is a centralized information base where you have all the prospective dogs together and the info on them is right there for you to decipher and make your own judgments. Your other idea is interesting. Who knows, maybe"Don's Real working Airedale Title" will be the most prestiges and sought after tile of all. Maybe there will be several different fur titles, for coon, coyotes, big game. Don't get me sidetracked here Mel.LOL
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